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Alli — Friend or Foe? (with Updated Information 8/11/07)

Posted by Catherine Morgan on July 4, 2007

 

 

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Additional updated information:

“Every day people are posting problems with this pill and the pharmacists keep giving the same response. ‘Alli works in the gut; it is non-systemically acting and will not interact with your prescriptions.’ A good majority of these concerns have not even had replies posted to. I contacted Alli and expressed the problems I was having. They informed me that I had the stomach flu (which I don’t) and they would not refund me any money,” she wrote.

“I am not just some person irritated with a product that didn’t work. I could care less about the monetary refund. I’m concerned that this is yet another pill that has not been fully tested and they are trying to sell as many as they can before they actually admit there is a problem. They seem to treat any question raised about this pill as silly because it has been through ‘clinical studies’ and dismiss everyone’s concerns.”read full article from Chicago Tribune

ALSO SEE: a doctors opinion

Alli — “The Diarrhea Diet

By Catherine Morgan – cross posted at BlogHer.org

I’m not going to try to sugar coat it, I’m an opinionated person. Back at the end of May when I saw an article about an over the counter diet pill being approved by the FDA, and peddled by a pharmaceutical company, my skepticism antenna went into overdrive.

The result was a post I did the same day on why you should just say no to diet pills, which included several links of other recent drugs the FDA and pharmaceutical companies had claimed to be safe, and later were taken off the market. In my opinion this happens much too often. And the main thing that sets me off is, it seems to be all about money. (Shocking! Not so much.) The FDA takes money from the pharmaceutical companies to “study” and approve their drugs, then the pharmaceutical companies make millions (even billions) off the American people, then voila, the drug that was once “safe” is no longer safe. It’s a very interesting phenomena.

Glaxo’s Avandia Fuels Arguments For Tougher Drug Laws — The study, released May 21, showed that Avandia, the world’s best-selling diabetes pill, increased the risk of a heart attack 43 percent. Members of Congress are questioning the Food and Drug Administration’s handling of evidence of side effects since the drug won U.S. approval in 1999.

The Avandia report has reignited complaints by Congress that the FDA is too lax in monitoring drug complications after a product is on the market. The agency previously was criticized for failing to act on heart dangers linked to Merck & Co.’s Vioxx painkiller before it was withdrawn in 2004, and for missing suicide risks linked to antidepressants. — read full article

Call me crazy, but it is troubling to me that the FDA considers a drug that basically induces diarrhea as a safe and effective means of weight loss. https://i2.wp.com/msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/070522/070522_dietpill_vmed_12p.widec.jpg Sure, you can argue that the drug is blocking fat from being absorbed and a side effect of that is causing diarrhea…but really…semantics. Right? Don’t we consider people that are using drugs to induce diarrhea as suffering from Bulimia, and in need of medical and psychological help? What about this…Lets say that a pharmaceutical company came out with a drug that induced vomiting, does that mean if the person is not sticking their finger down their throat they are not sick, they are just dieting? If that’s the case, maybe someone should consider repackaging Ipecac into pill form, and marketing it as the newest diet plan. Is it really that much of a stretch from where we are now???

Now that you know how I feel about it, lets take a look at some of the facts about the (not so) new diet pill. Then you can tell me how you feel about it.

To quote Wikipedia one of Alli’s side effects is:

“Because orlistat’s main effect is to prevent dietary fat from being absorbed the fat is excreted unchanged in the feces and so the stool may become oily or loose (steatorrhea). Increased flatulence is also common. Bowel movements may become frequent or urgent, and rare occurrences of fecal incontinence have been seen in clinical trials.” — read full post

For Alli to work without significant side effects, fat intake must be curtailed. Lee recommends no more than 10 grams of fat per meal. Alli instructs users to consume no more than 15 grams.

“If your fat content is higher than that, it can cause problems like flatulence, bloating, cramps and incontinence,” said Lee, noting that in clinical trials for the drug, adult diapers were made available to participants. “It can be very socially and personally disruptive.” — read full article

How badly do you want to be skinny? Is it worth soiling your underwear? — read full article

Let me just interject something here. Limiting your fat intake per meal WILL facilitate weight loss, even without a pill that gives you diarrhea. Eating a healthy diet is the real key to weight loss, and the only chance you will have at actually keeping the weight off.

What Science Says About Successful Weight Control

The best study of successful long-term weight control, the National Weight Control Registry, found that its 5,000+ members do not take pills or potions or undergo invasive surgery. They keep it simple and sensible. The vast majority walk about an hour every day and follow a diet that’s low in fat and full of healthy, naturally low-in-calorie foods like fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and beans. They have lost on average 66 pounds and have kept those pounds off, on average, for six years.

None of these weight-loss winners “committed” to oily discharge, out-of-control bowel movements, and nutrient loss.

“Alli is one big OOPS – for the FDA, for GlaxoSmithKline, for all of us. Someone should be committed here, but it’s not the two-thirds of Americans who need help in losing weight,” sums up Novick. — read full article

And what about the absorption of important fat soluble vitamins that are also blocked by this pill? Just “supplementing” these vitamins will not help…because even the supplements need fat to be absorbed (hence the words “fat soluble”).

Alli does interfere with the absorption of fat soluble vitamins. It’s important to take a vitamin/mineral supplement while taking Alli, but that is no guarantee that your body will still get and absorb all the nutrients that it needs—especially those that need fat to be absorbed.

Alli doesn’t care whether the fat you ate was from a Big Mac or a healthy serving of salmon. Even though all types of fat aren’t bad for you, Alli will take both good and bad fats out of the body. Dietitian Becky thinks this issue is “very important,” despite its lack of mention in the press and in the Alli support materials. Healthy fats are important for your overall health, and blocking them can have negative effects. — read full post

If you are still interested in giving this FDA approved diet pill at try, it won’t be cheap.

The pills vary in price depending on where they are purchased. At the Walgreen’s at 15th and Broadway in Sacramento, the 90-pill starter kit costs $59.99, a 60-pill starter kit costs $49.99, and a 120-pill re-fill with no accompanying literature costs $69.99. — read full article

And because it is my belief that this diet pill (that anyone can buy over the counter) will spawn a whole new problem for the eating disorder community, I am including links to information and support.

The National Eating Disorder Association

One in 10 young girls are prone to eating disorders.

Eating Disorder Warning Signs

BlogHer blogging on surviving eating disorders ED Survivors Club

If you are a BlogHer who has tried the diet pill “alli”, I hope you will leave a comment on your experience with it.

If you or a family member suffers from an eating disorder, I would be interested in how you feel about the possible abuse of this “alli” diet pill.

And for the rest of the BlogHers…What do you think about this pill? Would you consider spending the money to try it? Do you think it’s a good idea to have a pill like this available over the counter? Do you question the FDA’s decision to approve this drug as a “safe and effective” pill for weight loss?

I look forward to hearing your comments.

Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan

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ALSO SEE: Alli has Allies

UPDATED INFORMATION: I didn’t think I could be any more appalled with the marketing of this diarrhea pill masquerading as a healthy weight loss aide. And then I was looking for a book in Walmart and saw their latest marketing scheme, their very own diet book…

The alli Diet Plan

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35 Responses to “Alli — Friend or Foe? (with Updated Information 8/11/07)”

  1. […] Alli ? Friend or Foe? Do you question the FDA?s decision to approve this drug as a ?safe and effective? pill for weight loss? I look forward to hearing your comments. Contributing Editor Catherine Morgan. alli image from. […]

  2. jaykaydee said

    I suffered an eating disorder in college and now am the mother of two daughters. I am very focused on building their self-esteem. The more I read about Alli, the more disturbed I am. There’s a lot of discussion of the “treatment effects” of the drug here. Well worth a read: http://www.unboundedition.com/content/view/1285/50/

  3. Thanks “JayKaydee” — I’ll check out the link.

  4. Lacey said

    First of all I would like to say that I have been fat my whole life and have tried diet after diet and nothing ever worked!! Second I would like to say that I myself have been taking Alli for a month now and have lost 15.4 lbs and have NOT ONE TIME had diarrhea. I have stayed within my limits of fat grams and calories and I have not had any problems!!!! Third “Treatment effects” are NOT diarrhea but in fact (forgive me for being graphic) but is just oily substance that floats on the surface of the toilet water. And when you stay within your limits of fat grams these symptoms are non existent. Alli is not a miracle drug that will melt away fat without you having to do anything so if that is what you are looking for keep looking. I have worked very hard counting calories and fat grams and I feel as though Alli is the only thing that has helped me accomplish this! It motivates me to stay within my fat grams or I will get Treatment Effects! And that is not a bad thing!! I would also like to say that If you are looking to lose weight but are not ready to actually cut back on anything Alli is not the product you should try, because you truly will be miserable with Treatment effects all the time!! Lastly I would like to say that my sister suffers from Bulimia and I in NO way see that it is the same thing. I am not having diarrhea or throwing up to be thin…instead watching what I eat and exercising and using Alli the correct way…I am personally offended that you would place these in the same category!!! So for anyone out there that has read this…please don’t take advice about a product from someone who has not tried in nor knows anything about it but instead talk to people and research and find out for yourself if Alli is the right thing for you. THANK YOU

    • joditrev said

      I also have been taking Alli for about 1 month and have lost 18 pounds. I have tried every diet out there with no luck, or will power to continue. I have not experienced ANY side effects from Alli. When I do slip up and eat more fat grams that I should the side effects are minimal. Best of all I continue to lose weight!

  5. Hi Lacey. Thanks so much for your informative comment on your experience with Alli…And, congratulations on your success with your weight loss.

    I apologize if you felt I was saying that anyone using this product was Bulimic, that is not what I meant at all…I just meant that because of it being available over-the-counter, there is an increased chance that it could be misused by someone with an eating disorder.

    The fact that it is available over-the-counter, and being mass marketed as a “safe” diet pill…That is what I have a problem with. This had originally been a prescription medication, given to an overweight person under the supervision of their physician. And under those circumstances I don’t have a problem with this medication. However, as a nurse, I 100% disagree with this product being available over-the-counter (for all the reasons I have stated in this post).

    I wish you luck with your diet, but I have to recommend that you also “touch-base” with your doctor and make sure this diet and rapid weight-loss is not putting your health at risk. Especially, if you have any medical problems or are taking any prescription medications.

    Thanks again for your comment.

  6. Stephanie said

    I completely agree with Lacey! I realize that everyone has their own opinion, but I don’t think that you should be spewing your negativeness about Alli when you have not taken it. If the FDA says that Alli is safe for over-the counter use, then who are you to say otherwise. I too have been taking Alli for over a month now and have lost 20 lbs. I am very happy with my success and I do not contribute it completely to Alli. I lost weight because of my hard work and my decision to get out and exercise. Alli just helped keep me accountable for my food decisions. I do not worry about the treatment effects because I am not cheating. I have never been able to stick to a diet and have finally found something that works for me. It might not work for everyone, but it works for me, and Lacey, and thousands of others who need it. That’s all that matters.

  7. Hi Stephanie. You may not have realized but this post is a follow-up from an original post on this same subject…The link is at the top of this post “Why You Should Just Say No To Diet Pills”, or click this link
    https://women4hope.wordpress.com/2007/05/23/why-you-should-just-say-no-to-diet-pills-even-when-they-are-being-approved-by-the-fda/

    BELOW IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE ORIGINAL POST THAT EXPLAINS HOW THE FDA MANY TIMES SAYS SOMETHING IS SAFE AND THEN REALIZES IT ISN’T (IF YOU GO TO THE ORIGINAL POST THERE ARE EVEN MORE LINK ON THESE ONCE DEEMED “SAFE” MEDICATIONS)…

    What we consider safe…is not always what the pharmaceutical companies consider safe.

    Remember… “Phen-Phen“? –

    The Food and Drug Administration, acting on new evidence about significant side-effects associated with fenfluramine and dexfenfluramine, has asked the manufacturers to voluntarily withdraw both treatments for obesity from the market. Dexfenfluramine is manufactured for Interneuron Pharmaceuticals and marketed under the name of Redux by Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories, a subsidiary of American Home Products Corp. of Madison, N.J., which also manufactures and markets fenfluramine under the brand name Pondimin. Both companies have agreed to voluntarily withdraw their drugs. The FDA is not requesting the withdrawal of phentermine, the third widely used medication for obesity.

    The action is based on new findings from doctors who have evaluated patients taking these two drugs with echocardiograms, a special procedure that can test the functioning of heart valves. These findings indicate that approximately 30 percent of patients who were evaluated had abnormal echocardiograms, even though they had no symptoms. This is a much higher than expected percentage of abnormal test results. — read full article

    What about Vioxx? — Vioxx has been scrutinized for a potential heart risk for several years, but until now Merck maintained the drug was safe. — read full article

    Here are some more…

    A popular drug for irritable bowel syndrome and constipation was pulled from the U.S. market Friday amid new evidence that it raises the risk of heart attacks and strokes. — read full article

    The FDA today announced that the Parkinson’s disease drug Permax and its generic versions (pergolide) are being voluntarily taken off the U.S. market because of the risk of serious damage to the heart’s valves. — read full article

    “I think Americans need to recognize that every time they put a pill in their mouth — especially a new pill that they’ve never taken before — it’s an experiment,” says Dr. Raymond Woosley, vice president for Health Sciences at the University of Arizona. — read full article

    Rezulin, a once-hailed diabetes drug used by about 750,000 Americans, has been withdrawn from the market after it was linked to at least 63 deaths from liver poisoning. — read full article

    As far as you not believing I should “spew” negativeness about Alli without trying it…

    Do you believe that all the people who are making claims about how wonderful Alli is, have also taken the drug? Probably not. Therefor, I don’t feel obligated to actually try a medication that I believe to be potentially harmful, before speaking ill of it.

    Also, I believe you are correct that Alli is not completely responsible for your 20 pound weight loss in the last month. If you limit your fat intake you will lose weight with or without Alli. If you stick with a low fat diet, you will continue to lose weight, and more than likely be able to maintain the weight loss. But, it has been proven that the only people that ever keep weight off after a diet are the ones that take it off slowly, and make lifestyle changes. Fad dieting and rapid weight loss is rarely effective for the long term. But I do wish you luck with your weight loss.

    And, as far as…

    It might not work for everyone, but it works for me, and Lacey, and thousands of others who need it. That’s all that matters.

    Although this drug seems to be working for you and Lacey in the short-term, so do many other fad diets…that doesn’t mean it is the safe and effective way to lose weight, or keeping it off for the long term. Although, like I said, I do hope you will have continued success. But, you really can’t speak to whether this drug is working for thousands of other people, the jury is still out on the long term effects of this diet.

  8. ALSO SEE: http://blog.healthtalk.com/zimney/alli-weight-loss-wonder-or-scam-lite/

  9. Veronica said

    Hi Catherine. I have been taking alli now for about 5 weeks.I have lost 22 lbs. I know for a fact I could not have done this with out the support of alli.I know you feel strongly about it I think you should reasearch it a bit more. If you really understood it you would realize this is not just a pill it is an entire program that helps you make a complete lifestyle change. It helps people(like myself)that would otherwise not know where to begin. It is so far from a fad diet(trust me I know,been there done that). It (the alli program)teaches you to completely change your behaviors. It sets up an entire program online for you to follow. It helps you set up a menu and exercise program. It also has a board with many helpful people, RNs,Nutritionalist,Phycologist,Personal Trainers and others that are there to help you when you need it.They actually have an entire program that each week when you check in the adjust your program to fit your new needs. Trust me the do not tell everyone to eat 15 grams of fat per meal. It depends on you weight to begin with. They also tell you to go to your Dr. BEFORE you start this PROGRAM(its not just a pill). If people are to iggnorant to do so then I guess that is there choice. These are just some of the many tools at your disposal for the $43.95 (120 pills,6 weeks worth of alli). The alli pill does not induce diarrhea unless use incorrectly. I have not had any!Doesn’t all medication have side effects if used incorrectly. I actually think I would rather get diarrhea rather than an itchy rash or even dizziness. I actually really too offense that you a women in the health care profesion would actually link to the artcle written by Karl Stark (How badly do you want to be skinny? Is it worth soiling your underwear?). That article consist mostly of quote by comedians and night time talk show host that get paid to make fun of people. It really has alomost nothing useful in it. I would think you a nurse would want to stake your claim by fact not the words of comedians and other people that find it amusing to spend their time making fun of others suffering. Also I am rather curious…have you yourself ever been over weight? If not I would really suggest you update your blog again and take out some of the very offensive articles that poke fun at us “obese” people. Would you link to articles poking fun at drug addicts if you where doing a blog about that subject?

  10. *FYI, Three Strikes and Your OUT!!! As a person who has been blogging for a while now, I am quite aware that companies (such as Alli), pay other writers/bloggers to go to sites disputing their products and try to use that blog to “get their message out” – a message of deliberate “mis”-information, seemingly coming from other users of this product. That won’t be happening here. If anything these three “comments” have made me more aware of the need to do another follow-up post on this issue, and it will STILL not be supportive of this product.

    This is what a doctor is saying about this product.
    http://blog.healthtalk.com/zimney/alli-weight-loss-wonder-or-scam-lite/

    I will take the time to address this comment. Where oh where to start.

    1. You are OBVIOUSLY not familiar at all with this blog or any of my other blogs.

    This is BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN YOURSELF, where I speak often (as I also do here) about my “personal” struggle with the need to lose weight.
    http://catherinemarie.wordpress.com/
    So, to “assume” that my dislike for the “Alli” product is due to my lack of a need to lose weight, and by “accusing” me of having a blog that is “offensive” to obese people, is TOTALLY OUT OF LINE.

    2. I linked to an article that “poked-fun” at Alli, NOT OBESE PEOPLE. And “IF” this product happens to be helpful to truly obese women, then that is great — although there is NO evidence that once these women go off of this drug that they won’t just gain the weight back. FURTHERMORE, THIS PRODUCT IS NOT MARKETING TO “OBESE” PEOPLE…THEY ARE MARKETING TO ALL PEOPLE (WOMEN MOSTLY), THAT “FEEL” THEY NEED TO LOSE WEIGHT. AND THAT IS “OFFENSIVE” TO ALL WOMEN, OBESE AND OTHERWISE.

    3. I HAVE and DO research on posts such as this one. And, do you know what I find? I find exactly what you have done in your above comments, articles that are almost word for word the companies “talking points”…And my blog IS NOT about being a sounding board for million dollar companies, to help them make more millions through the deception of American women. PERIOD.

    *NOTE TO PEOPLE READING THIS — There is a very large controversy surrounding “some” blogs and bloggers right now. It seems that large companies have seen the impacts blogs have on selling or not selling their products. So, what many are doing now is “paying” bloggers to write posts about their products…And this is deception, because most of these bloggers are not stating that they are being paid to write a complimentary article (although some do). These companies also pay people to comment on sites like mine to “try” and discount the blogger who is NOT supporting their product.

    Okay, that is all I have for now, because I am currently trying to finish-up an important post on strokes and recognizing the symptoms. However, if this kind of commenting continues on this post…I will make my next post ANOTHER criticism of Alli (where I will also link new articles and posts from other medical professionals that are also questioning this product and its companies marketing practices.

  11. Anonymous said

    Alli – Friend or Foe?

    Catherine provides some fantastic information about Alli including the dangers, possible side effects and of course the manipulation of the consumer by big pharma.

  12. sami said

    Hello, I am writing you in response to not only your blog about alli but the comments that have been made on here and your responses to them. I will start by saying that I am not getting paid getting any rewards or products for this post. I also will tell you that I have been taking alli for a little over a month and I have had some success but not as much as the other girls. I will also say that I know all three woman that posted a comment and they were also not paid. they are part of a support group on myspace that I am also apart of. You can go to the page and find them and see their progress along with many other woman: http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewCategory&CategoryID=0&GroupID=106044355&Mytoken=BB6D0D65-9A1A-4AAC-8DE40CDAFFF0009760675447

    No for my story. I have PCOS and I work as a Medication Aid. I have been trying to lose weight for the past year and a half. I had lost 40 lbs but still needed to lose another 35 to 40 lbs. since I have PCOS it makes it very difficult to lose weight and I had been at a stuck point from the beginning of february to the end of May. Now, you say that if you do it under a doctors supervision then there isn’t a problem in your opinion, well I couldn’t get a doctor to prescribe me anything to help me and I was struggling with this and it was causing depression and low self-esteem. Now, I feel like I have control of my life I feel like I can lose the weight with my diet because I have that extra support. I am still struggling to lose weight but atleast I am losing the weight. I also would like to point out something else. And that is the marketing that the company is doing with alli. They have a whole website to let people know that they are not a miracle pill they have a commercial that states that there is work that you have to do and that you have to change your life and they give you a wealth of nurses and personal trainers that you can use on their website. I know that opinions are like asses, everyone has one. You are intitled to your opinion and I am sure that you can look on the internet and find 100’s of other people that are also against this medication. I have a problem with a world where a doctor takes his personal feelings and believes in to account above the pacients and that is the world we live in. I couldn’t find a doctor that would help me with my weightloss even though I would ask. Simply because they didn’t “believe” in using drugs to help block fat absorption. If you don’t believe that is true look at woman that want to get their tubes tied. If a doctor doesn’t believe in that type of birth control then he wont do it no matter what the pacient believes some doctors wont even prescribe the bc pill to woman because they don’t believe in birth control. This is wrong I don’t care who you are or what your beliefs are if I pacient wants something and there is FDA approved drugs to help them with that, whether it be birth control or weight loss, they should be allowed to recieve those even if the doctor’s “beliefs” are comprisied. Maybe, if doctors would get their heads out of the asses then we wouldn’t have the need for a FDA approved medication for the absorption of fat.

    Also, Alli doesn’t stop the absorption of ALL fat. So, fat soluble vitimans and of nutrients are still absorbed into the body with a multivitamin. Also you don’t take alli with everything you eat so some fat isn’t blocked at all (like snacks). I find it nieve on your part to take claims that you find on the internet in blogs to be the truth. I think that you are taking on the defensive when you ASK people that have taken the medication to respond to your blog and then when you don’t get the result that you were thinking you were going to get you claim that these posts are paid for when they are not they are simply what you ASKED for. instead of taking on the defensive before you have all the information (which you obviously don’t since you think it would stop the absorption of fat soluble nutrients) take a look at their website and see what they DO. It isn’t a pill they are giving to people and then setting them free they have tons and tons of resources for us. And they even have a chart that shows what you weight for your height before you take alli so they aren’t marketing to EVERYONE. Just the fat ones that are ready to make the CHANGES needed to lose the weight. I know that you will not change your opinon I just wanted to put my opinon out their.

  13. Stephanie said

    I have not been paid for anything that I have written on this, or any other, site. In fact, I had no idea that drug companies would even pay for things like that. I am a stay at home mom with 2 kids, that needs to lose 100+ lbs. But thanks for the tip, maybe I should look into a job like that. If I can make money by giving my opinion in response to other’s blogs, maybe I should do that.

  14. *** F.Y.I.

    THE MYSPACE GROUP YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT WAS FOUNDED ON MAY 14TH 2007 AND THE PRODUCT ALLI WAS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC ON JUNE 13TH.

    Type: Public Membership [help]
    Founded: May 14, 2007
    Location:: All Citys :),
    – US
    Members: 159

    http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=106044355&Mytoken=1E3816F2-B30F-4F28-87420EC1561D981969889081

    So, you three (four) may or may not be the originators of this MySpace “forum” — BUT THE “MyAlli MySpace group” was founded a month before it was on the market.

    A SUPPORT FORUM ORIGINATING A MONTH BEFORE A PRODUCT HITS THE MARKET IS CLEARLY NOT A RANDOM FORUM STARTED BY SOMEONE HAVING SUCCESS WITH ALLI.

    Now, again I will tell you…I am currently trying to work on A VERY IMPORTANT and potentially life saving article on recognizing Stroke before it is too late. My continued need to follow-up with your “Alli Support” comments, is interfering with my ability to finish this important article. So, since it is quite clear you have a “forum” for your continued discussion at the “MyAlli MySpace Group” I would like to suggest you continue your debate there. Thank you.

    I will happily post my future follow-up post on this issue at your forum so (at that time) you can inundate my blog with your objections.

  15. Stephanie said

    **FYI** I did not start the group, but, like you said, it was started before Alli was available to the public. And if you had taken the time to read the earlier posts, in the beginning it was just a support group for people that were interested in Alli, and had questions. The message boards on myalli.com are terribly slow and we had to find alternative ways to talk to others like ourselves. This is a real group, and I encourage anyone who reads this blog and needs support on their weight loss journey to join. It is a group of the kindest, most supportive women that I have ever met. And it really upsets me that you are trying to tell people that we are anything else but. It almost feels like a personal attack of sorts because I feel very fondly about this group. I am sure that you did not mean it that way, and that is what I am telling myself. You asked for people’s opinions on Alli, and even asked for people that have been taking it to tell you if they have had success, and we did. My personal success is not typical, and I know that. I am quite aware that a normal and healthy weight loss is 1-2 lbs a week. However, by cutting back my calorie intake and exercising 5x a week I have been able to lose more than that. I know that it will slow and that I will not be at my goal in 2 months. I will be living this lifestyle for the rest of my life. You keep saying that you don’t have time for us and that you are working on something more important. This topic happens to be very important to us and we want people to see the other side too. I think it would be sad if someone that was seriously overweight and was considering trying Alli didn’t solely based on your opinion and views of it. We just wanted people to know that if they are ready to change their lifestyle and get healthy that this moght be an option for them.

  16. Stephanie,

    1. I don’t have a problem with your “forum/support group”, I do have a problem with your “group” coming to my site and making “personal attacks” on my decision to use my Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech and writing a post against this product.

    2. I have asked you and the others to stop (spamming) me with your comments, because I am trying to write another important article on recognizing symptoms of stroke.

    3. Of course I have not read your forum from the beginning. I don’t care about it! You people brought the information about this forum to me, I never mentioned it before that.

    4. Myself and the people that read my blog (unlike you, who are only reading this one post) are just as “kind” and “supportive” as you claim the people at your forum are. I write this blog for women, and in support of women. If you get off your personal “soap box” for a moment and read this blog you would see that. If you don’t want to do that…If you just want to attack me for one opinion, that I feel as passionate about as you feel about your opinion…Then please leave.

    5. You are on my PERSONAL blog. I do not want to have to put my comments into moderation. You had your “say”, I am leaving it up (even though I could just take it down), but I HAVE TO WORK ON ANOTHER IMPORTANT ARTICLE THAT NEEDS TO BE POSTED TODAY…PLEASE RESPECT MY REQUEST FOR YOU TO GO BACK TO YOUR FORUM TO CONTINUE THIS DEBATE. Thank You.

  17. Lacey said

    I want to sincerely apologize this is completely my fault and I take all of the blame for them. I was very upset when I wrote the comment to you and I was talking about it to Stephanie on chat and I told her how embarrassed I was about it but then in talking to her I got upset again and I wrote a post about it on our group. I am soooooooooo sorry for this I NEVER meant for it to turn into this and I know that you are a very busy woman who is writing very POSITIVE articles on other subjects. I feel very ashamed that it turned into something of this magnitude and the post I posted I asked for it to be taken off of the website. It got blown way out of proportion and you are COMPLETELY entitled to your own opinions about Alli. I take all of the blame for this and I really sincerely hope that you can forgive me for this turning out this way. I will no longer be telling ANYONE about it because I am so embarrassed and I have caused you to feel attacked and you did nothing but express your opinion! Thank you for your time I know that it is very important and again I am DEEPLY sorry that it has turned into this.

  18. Thank you Lacey. I realize that many times people will not agree with a particular opinion or post of mine, and I welcome all comments, even when they don’t agree with me. The blogosphere can be a nasty place, but I think we can all respectfully disagree at times, and that is the type of atmosphere I try to have on my blogs.

    If you are interested, I finally finished my post on Stroke Recognition…

    https://women4hope.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/stroke-three-signs-you-need-to-know-that-could-save-your-life-with-youtube-psa-videos/

  19. Lacey said

    Awesome I will check it out! 🙂 thanks for being so great about things 🙂 and again i’m very sorry for what happened! i’ve been checking out some of your other blogs and they are very informative. Especially in the parenting section. I am a mother of a 19 month old and I find myself quite stressed at times so some of your tips could be quite helpful! thanks for blogging

  20. Thank you.

  21. Alexis said

    Catherine,

    Isn’t it wholly unprofessional to speak ill of Alli without trying it first. The FDA puts products through a rigorous review process. As a nurse you know that. It is the opinion of this individual that you are being disingenuous in putting forth information without the necessary research to counter that which the FDA received and approved.

    Shame on you 😦

  22. Lola said

    What happens if a person with a regular BMI uses ALLI? I am within my regular BMI but at the top end and just want to lose 20 pounds. I am 5’4” and 145 lbs andhave been advised that 125 is my healthy weight by my doctor (for my age- 35 and the fact that i have two children) .He of course suggested a routine that is harrowing. I actually started at 163 and I am so tired of dieting the good old fashion way. I just thought that a little help couldn’t hurt.I am a lacto-vegetarian anyway and don’t eat a whole lot of fat so I’m not too worried about the treatment effects. What do you think?

  23. @ Alexis – I haven’t tried any of the drugs that the FDA has called safe one minute, and years later (after the drug companies have made millions off the drug) notified the public that it really isn’t safe. I would never try a drug that has already been found unsafe by the FDA under one name, but now with a good “sales pitch” is being touted as safe.

    Hi Lola. I would not recommend this drug to anyone. I would suggest you continue eating healthy and if that brings you closer to the 125 mark so be it…if it doesn’t, you are still at a healthy weight. 🙂

  24. Lola said

    Thanks a million. It’s just as you know, so painfully slow. And I am one of those people who average 1 pound a week. Thanks again. But am I hearing you say the drug in this product was found unsafe at some time? It is really good of you with your schedule with a job and children (I know how that can go) that you are dedicated to helping others. Keep up the good work!!

  25. Hi Lola. If it’s any consolation…The slower you lose your weight, the more likely you are to keep the weight off. And don’t forget…The most important thing is for you to be healthy and be at a healthy weight. 🙂

  26. Tea said

    Ok people…I keep reading a lot of messages that seem like people are giving opinions without following Alli like you are supposed to, if any of you are, I don’t know. Xenical has been prescribed for a LONG time by doctors. It is JUST NOW available in the approved FDA form because they did the studies to get it to over-the-counter regulatory standards. This pill isn’t a medication. It is a fat-blocking substance, plain and simple. It does not affect anything but your lower digestive tract. There are specific instructions on taking it with necessary medications. You are also supposed to take a daily VITAMIN to get your nutrients right before you go to bed so it does not get flushed out of your system by the fiber you are supposed to consume with this diet. I have NEVER had a single case of oily bowels or whatever happens to people when they eat over their allowed allotment of fat grams. Any of you that say this pill is a laxative obviously didn’t read the directions, or didn’t care to follow them so you could complain, instead of being positive and making a positive life change. Good job those of you who have followed the program and stuck with it. I’ve lost 85 lbs and still going. God speed.

  27. Lety said

    Okay i did go out and buy a bottle of Alli and now i am reading all the comments and am afraid to try it. I really need to loose 20lbs.

  28. Kimmie said

    I have been on Alli and I’ve lost 12 lbs. so far. I have NEVER had diarrhea! Everyone who has something negative to say about it has NOT tried it. If you are experiencing diarrhea, than you are ABUSING it and not following the diet recommended for you.

    Please learn how to follow the program!

  29. Lacey said

    hello its lacey again. I just wanted to give an update 🙂 I was down 83 lbs before i found out i was expecting again. 😀 I wanted to tell everyone that i contribute my weight loss to hard work of counting calories, fat, and exercising. Alli was my jumping off point that helped me achieve my goals. here is a before and after picture!

  30. Lacey said

  31. alex said

    Hi
    I just saw that some of you have tested alli.
    I am a french reporter, and as alli is coming to our stores on may, I would like to interview some people who have tested alli, in order to inform french people about this capsule. Either it did worked for you, or you stopped it because it was too hard, your testimony is very important for me. I am working for a serious french tv channel, and will be in the US next week, I really need your help to find some people who’d like to talk to me, as the better person that can talk, are the people that tried it.
    Thank you to let me know, at alexandraranz@hotmail.com

    All the bests,
    A

  32. I think you made some good points in your post.

  33. Jay Breden said

    Abit about the alli pill.The new pill just approved by the FDA is a weight loss drug. Alli pill became available to the general public June 2007. Perhaps by the time you read through this website, you will have already heard about it or even seen it on the shelves. You can buy product without a prescription from a physician. That’s right – an over the counter weight loss drug.

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